01:00 Great Netflix documentary on the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/americas-sweethearts-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-netflix/678779/
07:00 A Blockade Is An Act Of War, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=155919
16:30 Media BLATANTLY LIES About LA Synagogue Protests, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnLwmXTTWWM
30:00 WSJ: Mob Targets Synagogue As LAPD Stands By, https://www.wsj.com/articles/mob-targets-synagogue-as-lapd-stands-by-los-angeles-jews-anti-israel-protesters-d4c2c681?mod=opinion_lead_pos8
36:00 Dooovid joins, https://x.com/RebDoooovid
37:00 Jewish activist Adam King, https://x.com/TheAdamKingShow
42:00 The appeal of conspiracy theories, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X22000719
45:00 Alice Miller’s The Drama of the Gifted Child, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/suffer-the-children/201206/the-drama-the-gifted-child
54:00 Gurus like to use common terms in contrarian ways to get attention
57:00 Loneliness makes us vulnerable
1:06:00 Luke & Dooovid as micro-celebrities unwilling to follow the conventional path to podcasting success
1:09:00 Senseless brawlers are losing at life
1:22:00 Vaccine mandates, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=155921
1:26:00 The War on Noticing | Guest: Steve Sailer | 6/26/24, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUMFv0__qXI
1:35:50 Fox: Israel-Hamas war: Terrorists strike aid convoy carrying children
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2023/12/21/an-unhealthy-definition-of-rights-constitutional-contagion-parmet/
1:37:20 Revolutionary War and the Development of International Humanitarian Law, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=155888
1:39:00 What’s wrong with human rights? https://www.theamericanconservative.com/whats-wrong-with-human-rights/
1:40:00 Revolutions in International Law: The Legacies of 1917, https://www.amazon.com/Revolutions-International-Law-Legacies-1917/dp/1108495036
1:41:00 The case against rights, https://thelampmagazine.com/issues/issue-21/against-human-rights
1:42:00 Is Israel Committing Genocide? https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=155365
1:43:00 Who determines the winning narrative? https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=155583
1:44:00 The Ethics of Violence: Recent Literature on the Creation of the Contemporary Regime of Law and War, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=155758
1:45:00 Filling the Gaps: The Expansion of International Humanitarian Law and the Juridification of the Free-Fighter, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=155753
1:47:50 The Last Utopia: Human Rights in History, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqtFJZB27M8
1:48:00 The “Good War”: Preparations for a War against Civilians, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=155491
1:49:00 A Short History of International Humanitarian Law, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=155471
Podnotes AI transcript:
Speaker 0: Good made. Captain 40 here. Let me warn you you’ve been thunder struck. Have you seen the new Netflix? Hey Series by Greg White.
I, this is amazing on America’s Sweetheart, the Dallas Cowboy She Dc, and this young woman in particular, Reese. She is mesmerizing, you cannot take your eyes off her. When she dances, he cannot look anywhere else, but at her and her her… Theory, her her belief what she’s doing is I don’t want you to look at mate me. I want you to see Jesus.
Right? She is dancing for Jesus. She is incredibly mesmerizing. And apparently, she’s a virgin. Right?
She’s marrying the first guy that she’s ever dated. Right She has absolutely no experienced with men problem. The story presented in Dc. Right? Dallas Cowboy Chili leaders.
And my god, I just couldn’t take my off her or this whole series. It it was absolutely mesmerizing. And the the dancers that they would do, like Thunder struck to that great. Ac dc song. My god where where they’re doing the splits to to thunder the construct.
I mean, they jump up, and then they just do the do do the splits. It’s incredibly challenging. My god. Alright? They they they they jump up and then Then then they fall down and and and do the splits.
Right? See here on the left of my my screen. Right? America’s Sweetheart is the name of the documentary series. It’s on.
So they jump up, and then they come down. They fall. On their legs and on there between their legs and wow. I mean, they they come out to the Ac song Thunder struck. I mean, what a wait to get started.
And so watching this series and so much of the fu around the Dallas Cowboy cheerleader leaders and the Dallas cowboys, It it reminds me the same kind of further that I know experience and have lived in orthodox Judaism. Like, this is The equivalent of orthodox Judaism. This is the hero system for for many people, particularly in Dallas. I… I’m a Dallas Cowboy fan.
But my god Bun struck. This is their hero system. Right? The same kind of devotion. The people in my orthodox jewish community put into Orthodox Judaism.
Right? They put into the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader, they hardly get paid anything. Alright. They get about 500 dollars a game, and then they have opportunities for some promotional work. And so maybe they they make about 60000 dollars a year if they do all the opportunities.
Alright. So virtually, all of them have to work full time jobs. Right, they work full time jobs, and then they have practice 3 4 hours a night. Right not a lot of time to sleep. And when they come out, they have to be on, Is like, wow, thunder.
Right? They have to be alive, and and, , put out a a certain image. Is and, like the energy and and the diversion, and then the physical damage to your body, like, jumping up in the air like that and then coming down on your your crotch. Abby, please. Try it yourself, like, jump up in the air, then come down doing the full splits landing on your crotch and and tell me how that works for you.
So a lot of the women have to have hip surgery and other physical surgery. So what kind of woman would risk serious injury and make no money. Alright. Would she be would she be a mentally healthy woman. And and some of the women are very impressive.
There’s this 1 woman who’s like, the lead cheerleader, and She’s a full time nurse. So she impressed me. Right? That there were definitely some who who impressed me. But then for others, it was obviously a dysfunction.
And so they reminded me a lot of the girls who would do p*rn because they didn’t feel beautiful This seems to be the underlying psychological truth behind many of these Dc Dallas cowboy cheerleader leaders. They didn’t feel beautiful growing up, and this is a way that they can feel beautiful and desired. Even though it comes with tremendous downsides are getting stoked, getting g, getting harassed, and having to do this work for for virtually free, Right? And and not being off to sleep. Alright.
You don’t get enough sleep. Right, You many ties more likely to get in a serious car accident to make bad decisions with your help. So so some of the women seem really unhealthy. They seem to have significant eating issues, some of the women seem incredibly impressive. On the face of it I don’t understand how anyone could play tackle football.
I mean, just the the downsides of the injury, the impact, the the devastation to your cognitive abilities Right? So playing tackle football, I I can’t comprehend it. And then cheer leading for virtually no money in doing great great physical damage to yourself. I I… There were a lot of older cheerleader leaders who shop in the documentary and Few of them age well.
Few of them age well. They almost all look back on their time. In Dc is the most exciting point of their lives. This is the the highlight of their life. And so some of them are incredibly impressive.
Was really impressed by the 2 women running Dc. I mean, their attention to detail, like, the the the the makeup, the the… I , what’s going on with with each performer? Like, how is she looking is she showing enthusiasm? Are her her, her kicks, , when she’s kicking up, , she’s kicking up basically to her face and above, Just amazing feat of athletic, exuberance that they show, and then, the psychological glow that they give out the sense of excitement that they gender, they’re a key part of American.
Right? They they bring joy to hundreds of thousands of men, America’s sweetheart on Netflix. Alright. I I strongly recommend this show. I’m just thinking about this.
Tell me if I’m I’m way off. Right? A blockade is an active law. And I’m deciding to think. These pro Palestine protesters at Ucla, outside Ada Torres Synagogue on Sunday and all around America, when they’re protesting, they’re not primarily protesting.
They are not primarily protesters as they are people engaged in a blockade. Right? They creating blockade so that jews cannot have normal access to their own private Jewish facilities, nor to public facilities nor to moving freely. And so in international law, a a blockade is an act of war. Right?
And how how would you feel if you came home, and your home was blockade off. You need to get to the hospital but your street is blockade off. You need to get to work. And if you don’t work, you don’t get paid. And your route to work is blocked by protesters.
Right? You need life saving medical treatment, but you can’t get it, because of these kind of pro palace blockade. To me, creating a blockade in a first world country illegally is worthy of the death penalty. Tell me you by, I’m off base here. Right?
You don’t allow people to engage in they’re they’re normalized to get medical help to go to Churchill Synagogue and these blockade, they also disrupting the synagogue during price services. So it wasn’t just something about a land sale. And I don’t get the drama about was this land sale in occupied West bank territory. Right? All land is disputed.
Right? Because people don’t emerge out of the land. Right? All land all countries are created by… In large part by ethnic cleansing, Right?
8 people take over. Right? They have the military power and the effectiveness to take over a particular plot of land and then to maintain and defend it. Right, against other groups who also have claims to the land, a So all those people who are on the side of Palestinians, Alright? How would you feel if your access to Life necessary medical care, your access to income, your ability to support your family, it was blockade by another group.
Who also has claims to the land that you live on. Right? Other groups have claims to the land that you live on right now. Just as strong as the Palestinians So what unites all these groups who claim land is occupied by another entity. Right?
What unites all these groups is that they are losers. Right? They lost out. So in the fight for establishing and protecting and defending a particular spot of land. So the land that you are on right now is occupied land.
Right? Other groups, other people have a claim to your land, and they have just a stronger claim as the Palestinians. Right? They’re all united by losing. Just not being particularly effective at creating their own state.
Right? The Palestinians is were never able to create a state, the arabs who lived in the land that is now known as Israel. Alright, not particularly high acute bunch, not a particularly effective bunch, just another group who loses, and loses out to more effective, more intelligent and more more productive. Right? Just people who operate at a higher level.
Alright. So let’s have a look at breaking point. So I have positive towards this independent news commentary show breaking points. So let’s see what they think the lies are. So for me, just that the lie that just jumped out at me to about 20 minutes ago is that these protesters are not primarily protesters.
Right? If they were just protesting, Right? There’d be very little opposition. Right? The opposition is to them block normal access to public and private space.
Right? Preventing people from living their lives through illegal behavior. Right? To me, a blockade is an act war, you are asking for the death penalty. Alright.
You blockade enough people, you’re gonna get killed. Alright. You go out there. And you just start block people. You prevent people from leaving their home, you go out there, prevent people from entering their home.
You get out there, prevent people from go to church, Going to Synagogue, going to a mask, going to a work, you prevent people from supporting their family, you prevent people from getting education. You prevent people from going to see grandma or going to see their their friends. Alright. You prevent people from their volunteer opportunities or their professional or social opportunities, you go out there and you prevent enough of this. Right?
You get out there on blockade. And at a certain point people will rightly and naturally snap, and you’ll be killed. Right? There’s not an infinite amount of block that you can engage in, and without people fighting back and by large, the police are gonna be incredibly slow to respond to your block. So if you’re being blockade by people engaged in these illegal protests that are that are block you from owning a living, supporting your family getting an education.
Then you’re gonna have to break the blockade yourself or with your own in group. Right? If you wait for the police to create room. Right? You’re gonna lose hours and hours and hours of your life if the police ever act.
Right? The police are much more interested in quite quite establishing the perimeter. Right? They don’t want to do this kind of hard work. So either you and you’re in group, break the blockade and create incentives for people not to blockade a your in group.
Alright? Or you allow your life to be limited, diminished wrecked even destroyed. Right? So which way, man, do you do you wanna allow people to just blockade you from conducting a normal life. Right?
To me, this is a death penalty act whether the death penalty is is carried out judicious, judicious, theoretically or through some some other means extra. Right? You blockade enough people from supporting their family, living their life. Right? You’re gonna cop it Right.
So to me, that’s the the biggest media lie just occurred to me about media coverage of these pro palestine protests. What makes them controversial and what imp people is not the protest, it is the block, which according to it National Law is an active war.
Speaker 1: Meant to bring you an update on this protest that happened in Los Angeles. So the protest… Which no 1…
Speaker 0: Okay. It wasn’t a protest. It was a blockade. It prevented people from walking down the street, getting into Synagogue, conducting their life. Alright?
It it wasn’t a protest. Right? That’s like saying, describing an active rape as an active sex. Right? The important thing about an active rate is not that it was a sexual act, but that it was a violation of a person.
Right. So… If you you told me that you’re gonna die unless you get to touch the breasts of this young female presenter right now. Would say better than you die. But I believe that’s a tam position.
So it it’s not as a you get to do anything. I Right? You get out there and violate people, then you deserve a very strong rec. And so These are not protests they are blockade.
Speaker 1: The media will apparently tell you was in the context of a real estate event. At a Synagogue where they…
Speaker 0: It was a real estate event at a synagogue. Now, your particularly hear a system mary God. A real estate event that sells land in the West Bank is somehow heinous, but there’s no objective reason to think that. There’s… It’s no more heinous, than selling a home.
If you own a home in Washington, Dc, Right, You’re a colonize that you’re a settle, other people had possession of that land before you They can make just as strong a case that you’re an oc occupy and a settle and an imperialist as the Palestinians can do about the Jewish state. Alright. Either way, you’re gonna be attacked by people who lose at life. By people, but not savvy, enough, we’re not intelligent enough and not effective enough to create and protect their own land.
Speaker 1: They were selling off stolen land in the West…
Speaker 0: There’s no inherent read Stolen Land on the West Bank. At Israel was attacked by 5 Arab armies, Israel fought back. Right? And it won. Right?
Fight fighting back and winning is not illegal. And usually, when countries are attacked. Right? And they fight back, and they take some of the attackers territory. Right?
You can make a illegal case that that’s illegal, but it’s not sub objective. Definition of illegal ideology. Alright? That’s just your own peculiar hero system. And Israel was attacked in 19 67, they fought back against 5 arab armies in day 1.
And as part of their victory, they took back land from the attackers. And Israel would be glad for all the arabs in Israel All the arabs in the West Bank and all the arabs and gaza are to leave. Right? Move a few miles, tell the people who share your language and share your religion, like, get the hell out.
Speaker 1: Bank exclusively available by the way to which people. Now in America, a restrictive cover covenant,
Speaker 0: Oh, okay. So this is land just available to Jewish people. Well, guess what. Yeah. That’s technically against the law.
But it happens all the type in America. Law isn’t just something that’s on the box. Right? There are all sorts of communities where people only sell to a certain type of person. Right?
So, yeah, it’s technically against the law in the United States, but it’s how any neighborhood maintains itself. By breaking the law and being judicious about who you sell to.
Speaker 1: It’s are illegal. You can’t say this neighborhood is for whites only. Anymore, But in Israel, you can say.
Speaker 0: And yet, many neighborhoods do something very similar to that. Right? You have Asian neighborhoods black. Neighborhoods, Latino neighborhoods, Chinese American neighborhoods and white neighborhoods all throughout America because people practice is very thing that you’re condemning. Neighborhoods because it’s no won’t natural and often healthy.
Speaker 1: This neighborhood is for jews only. And so there’s been a series of these real estate events. There was 1 in t neck New.
Speaker 0: In Jewish neighborhoods, Jews, by and large do not sell their homes to non Jews so that they can maintain the character of their neighborhood. And in black and Latino neighborhoods. Right? They engage in massive amounts of crime to keep out outsiders. So I think between murdering people and raping people and robbing people.
And severely injuring people, choosing not to sell to a member of an out group is a, , a pretty nice thing to do to preserve your neighborhood as opposed to the crime that that goes on in many black and with latino neighborhoods that try to prevent outsiders from moving in.
Speaker 1: Jersey there been some in Canada. This was the latest happening in La. And so protesters showed up to protest this event. Counter protesters also showed up and the whole thing as the cops are just standing by and letting it happen. Dev evolves into chaos and violence would could be a little bit of a taste of that, , you’ve got I I don’t know who’s who who’s ins integrating, etcetera, I can tell you that were journalists who had their
Speaker 0: Okay. Cops standby by and let it happen. The more difficult you make it for cops to do their job, and the mainstream media. And also sorts of fortune 500 companies that subsidized black lives matter, it made it substantially more difficult for cops to do their job. Right?
And so as a result of that, you have less assertion by cops, and you have a lot more crime, and you have a lot more dislocation. Right, Ed, you have more rule by thugs. Right? And this is an example of rule by thugs, blocking access. And police gonna be highly reluctant to act in these situations because our elites have created all these incentives to diminish police enthusiasm for doing their jobs, because when the police do their jobs, it has a disparate impact because certain groups commit disproportionate numbers of crimes.
Speaker 1: 1 journalist about his phone stolen by a pro Israel protest. I also wanna mention that there were protests outside of that Tea neck New Jersey, Synagogue real estate event as…
Speaker 0: And was that Journalist who had his phone stall? Or was he a member of event antifa? Right? Because a lot of members of Antifa pose as journalists, but they are communists bent on, , political activism, which is absolutely legal. Right?
But are they primarily journalist is journalist an accurate way to describe them. Right all this virus happen because the pro palestine… People engaged in illegal behavior, blocking access. It’s not because they were protesting. Right?
People wouldn’t get beaten up, He wouldn’t get their phone stolen because the pro Palestine crowd was just protesting the the sale of illegal land. Right? We had a brawl because the only way that Jews could continue on with the their lives at this particular place. Right? With what they were planning to do is if they physically broke the blockade that was established by the pro Palestine crowd.
And this is a frequent tactic by the pro Palestine crowd. They stop Jews from entering Jewish facilities, public facilities just prevent jews from having freedom of movement and the only way the Jews can get to where they wanna go is to physically bust up these blockade. Right? So these pro people are ins integrating violence. Right?
When you create a situation where violence is the only solution. Right, aside from just accepting defeat, or waiting for hours until the police doing something, then you are the 1 who is pushing the event towards violence.
Speaker 1: As well. And those remain peaceful because the cops kept at 2 sides. Separated. So there have been… This isn’t even the first time that protests have erupted at this thing.
Okay? So that is what it looked like me show you the poster of the real estate event that was , for what was occurring at the Synagogue. They say, come and meet representatives of housing projects in all the best anglo neighborhoods in Israel and…
Speaker 0: Anglo means they speak English. Right. She wants to imply the something sinister of wedding to by property among people who speak English. Oh, how scary. How evil.
Alright? You wanna be have to talk to your neighbors. My God, people who wanna talk to their neighbors. I remember Los Angeles Barr, Antonio Villa instructing us at S Temple to go out and talk to someone who doesn’t speak our language. But you can’t talk to someone who doesn’t speak your language.
At no more natural and healthy to want to live among people who speak your language.
Speaker 1: And again, this group, the my home in Israel. Real estate company, they offer properties that are for sale in the occupied West bank, and, , this is illegal by international law,
Speaker 0: according to some interpretations of international law. Alright. The reason that Israel has the West bank is because 5 arab nations attacked it and they lost. Alright? So it’s fine.
That there’s no inherent reason that losers are superior or inferior to winners. Right? So this… Lady here, I’m breaking point she wants to side with the losers, but the very place that she lives. Right?
Other losers have every bit as much of a claim to where she lives as the Palestinians do to land in Israel or in the West Bank,
Speaker 1: probably illegal in Us law 2 certainly against Us policy, etcetera. The way this was covered in the press
Speaker 0: No, it’s not illegal to, buy land in the West bank on on Us law. Right? And at this event, at most, there was 1 property that was on the West Bank. Right? The overwhelming number of the properties that were offered at this event were in Israel proper.
And so every spot on earth is disputed. Right? You can argue any land in the world is stolen. Because all land in the world is stolen. Because nobody grew up out of the land.
Nobody has any inherent ride to a particular spot of land. The only right you get that which you are capable and effective enough to seize and to defend. Right? And so there are some people who just tend to side with the brown loses against white winners. Right?
And I I can understand the social cache, from that, I can understand it’s dominant communist ideology among many of our elites that brown people are always the victims of of where people, I’m more interested in trying to understand how winners win. Right? That… That’s kind of my outlook life. How do winners win?
I wanna know what’s effective and what’s effective? Still effective. And so this lady, she wants to side with the losers, and she wants to hype up what they were doing as something that was, , know, very very noble. They were just protesting, and they weren’t protesting. They were block.
They’ll prevent preventing normal operation of Jewish life in Pi Robertson.
Speaker 1: Was so incredibly dishonest. It was unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I agree because these protesters are called protesters And what they’re doing is creating such an intense blockade on the ability of Jews, in particular to lead their lives that violence is inevitable. Right? They are ins integrating and creating a situation where they all have to be violence and people will die and people have died because of the the these type of, what’s called protests.
Speaker 1: Well, actually, it’s totally believable in part of the course honestly of the way…
Speaker 2: Tell you Crystal
Speaker 1: They approach it.
Speaker 2: Because as you… So I check in, I log in. I was like, okay, Wow. Was like, some crazy stuff went down in Los Angeles. Tell and so I look into it and I’m like, I’m…
By the way, as people know. I’m… I would say, I I’m pretty neutral on this. I’m open to it, bunch of Palatine Ke mask.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Ed I strive to rise above my own pot and preferences. Alright. What what’s the what’s the bloody title of this stream? Right?
Decoding the winning strategy, the Palestinians. So the Palestinians don’t only lose. Right? They are not perpetual inherent losers. Right?
They’ve done a lot of losing. But they’ve also done a lot of winning, and Not gonna spend most of today’s show like I did Yesterday on versus yesterday show. Decoding the winning part of the Palestinian strategy.
Speaker 2: He’s, , beaten people up. It’s possible, skeptical. So we look into it. And they’re like, oh, yeah. It doesn’t seem good.
Now, all of this all these politicians start condemning the act. Everyone’s was like, oh my God. This is terrible. There was a po.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Normally, people are going to condemn access to church’s synagogue and mosque. Right? You blockade and prevent people from entering a church, a synagogue or a mask. That’s not gonna win you good P r.
Even if it’s a real estate event at that church or at that mosque. Alright? They they don’t only use churches to worship God. Then don’t only use master worship guard. But I I think any mask or any religious institution that hosts, planning of terrorist events like many mosque in the United States, including the mosque in C city.
Right? It was a host to the planning of 09:11, I think any religious institution or any Ng that hosts planning for a mass casualty terrorist event should be destroyed. Just raised to rubble.
Speaker 2: From, happened Los Angeles. Now I’m starting to get suspicious. Because I need I’m gonna start to see that language coming come out. No
Speaker 1: Like wait a second
Speaker 2: So then, , our producers like, well, it was in response to a real estate event. I said, what what are you talking about? So then we start to look. Look and we checked. We had to check that flyer.
We confirmed it. We go to the Los Angeles times, and we read, , the local paper about what happened. Look and you have to read… I wanna say 20 paragraphs.
Speaker 1: We add this all and input it up on the screen. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We can put D3I
Speaker 0: have some sympathy for this, critique. Right? I, I’m not all in, but it is an important critique. I think that this is a real estate event, and that’s why you have protesters To me, that’s 1 of the top top 3 points about this whole story. It it should be mentioned in the first 3 paragraphs.
To me it’s a very important point. So I I welcome this critique. I think there is there is some substance sincere.
Speaker 2: 3 these guys up on the screen, and it takes scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and scrolling to discover the context of the real estate event. And in my opinion, that kind of does change everything though? Because all the rhetoric that I see online is everyone’s like, why are they purchasing and sitting on? This is just disgusting.
Speaker 0: No. It doesn’t change everything. Right? Synagogue in a church and a mask are not only used for for Worship God. Right?
They are also used to enable… No god’s people, right, to conduct themselves in this world. Right? All religious people understand that they are also living in this world in addition to aiming for something higher and h. So it it doesn’t change everything, but it wasn’t a protest at Jews praying, Right?
It was a protest at a real estate event. So got a lot of sympathy here with the breaking points critique.
Speaker 2: Is a religious temple? Like, how can they do this out of all the places to choose? I’m like, okay. Well, if you’re hosting in a real estate event, shutting off lane in the West bank. And it says an.
Speaker 0: It wasn’t primarily auction off land in the West Bank. It was in Israel, and if these 2 hosts of breaking points are outraged at selling land? Alright. Why is it only the Jewish state that they’re outraged about? How many other shows have they done where they condemn or say, oh, it’s totally cool to blockade attendance at a real estate event.
Is it only wet Jews, sell land it went jews by land that they become outraged? Because I don’t remember these guys getting outraged to other real estate events? So if it’s only when Jews do x that you get upset. Right? And and when any other group engages in settling real estate.
Right? You can care less. Then, yeah, You’ve got a a particular hangout with Jews.
Speaker 2: Ing neighborhoods early. That’s a little bit crazy. Can we all agree?
Speaker 0: Why is it crazy? Right? They’re selling land? Why is it any more crazy than selling land in Beverly wood in Beverly Hills in Santa Monica where you live? Right?
People want to be able to speak to people speak their language. Right? I suspect the hosts of the… This show do not live in predominantly black neighborhoods. Oh, my god.
They’re such racist. Why do they choose to spend so much money to avoid living in a predominantly black neighborhood.
Speaker 2: You with that. Alright. Now I’m not saying but it gets deserve violence. , I don’t think there should be any violence. I.
The side Agree. But, , legitimate. I think around for a protest. So for… I mean, this is what I mean.
Let’s flip it around. So…
Speaker 0: Yes. I I can completely under understand why there would be a protest. Right. Let’s say it’s 2 tribes that have, , absolutely no connection to me. I would understand in…
If circ*mstances reversed, just 2 out 2 other tribes. Right why there would be protests. But if the are block, the normal ride of Americans to move freely, then I I would support a very severe response on the other hand, if they’re just protesting, Right nobody cares if they’re just protest. Right? Nobody…
Almost nobody cares in America about Palestine or about Israel. Americans overwhelmingly care about America as they should. Americans don’t care that much about other countries.
Speaker 2: I’m indian. Let’s say that there is a Hindu temple like the 1 I used to go to where. I was growing up. And there was an event there where they were…
Speaker 0: Well, you’re you’re Indian, you’re Hindu. Okay? So India is steadily becoming more hindered nationalist and sending out hit squads right or around the world to kill opponents of hindu nationalism. And as a Hindu and someone of Indian descent. Alright?
You’re probably gonna receive some blow back for that. Now I would not want your into temple blockade, right? Just because India sends out hit squads to kill its enemies.
Speaker 2: For auction off offline in C. That’d be a little bit crazy. Yeah. And we said it was only for Hindu. And then a bunch of Pakistani Donny showed up.
And we were… And then there was, like, a clash or whatever. And people said that they had provoked attacked, but I’ve bet even me. I’d be like Come on, guys. Like this…
Look, they’re within their rights, , to show up. This is America. Last time I checked. None of that is in the public sphere. The way wait.
Speaker 0: They keep emphasizing these protesters within their rights. They’re not in their rights. They’re acting illegally. This is not a publicly sanctioned protest. And they are block.
That’s the point It’s not protesting. So these 2 hosts are just as dis discontinuous as the media that doesn’t emphasize that this is a real estate event.
Speaker 2: Raping people are talking about it. It’s asked if it was totally un unprepared, And I just think, look, again, I condemn violence. I don’t should have happened. I think the police should have kept them separate, etcetera. That said, if you don’t report that, you are just being blatantly dishonest.
So just… Because that’s the issue.
Speaker 1: Here’s the way. To be honest with you the Ellis times, the fact they even mentioned Right. That there was a quote unquote real estate event with none of the, like, oh, and by the way, they’re selling, , a legal stolen land, etcetera, and it’s for Jews. Juice only. The fact They even mentioned that puts them better than, like, 95 percent of mainstream coverage.
Which all portrayed this as like, people just hate Jews, so they were protesting a synagogue. With none of the context.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I… So I got a lot of sympathy for their overall criticism, and I I think they’re also equally worthy of critique. Alright. Interesting article in the Wall street Journal and Op ed.
Alright, Mob Target Synagogue as Lap lapd stands by. So this is another valid perspective. Right? III think the the sector we just heard was was valid, but this was
Speaker 3: Target the dog as Lap lapd stands by. Anti israel protesters obstructed, beat and bear sprayed jews who were simply trying to enter. By Alexandra Or, 06/26/2024, 01:40PM Eastern time. A friend texted on Sunday afternoon, just checking to make sure your family is okay after everything in La today. I hadn’t been online and had no clue what he was talking about.
It could have been anything, an earthquake or a wildfire, but something told me it was semitism. Unfortunately, I was right. Protesters waving Palestinian flags and shouting anti israel slogan gathered side Ada dash Taurus Synagogue in Los Angeles, Pi Robertson neighborhood on Sunday. They tried to block the entrance and were soon met by counter protesters waving Israeli flags. The group’s clashed.
A dash tour officials said the anti israel demonstrators Mace and bear sprayed Jews trying to enter the synagogue, which was hold…
Speaker 0: No. I think it’s generally a bad idea to unnecessarily physically brawl. In these situations. But if the opposition is set up a blockade so that you can’t do the things that you need to do and want to do then you have created a situation where brawl is very much in your group’s best interest because the police may never getting it around to creating a space for you to go about your business.
Speaker 3: L and Israeli real estate fair. Talia 43. Said she was sprayed and saw violent altercation between the 2 groups. There was nowhere to turn where you could be safe, said Nap Sherman, 25, who had planned to attend the Synagogue fair. He was attacked and ended up in the hospital, There was a whole gang of protesters on top of me.
They broke my nose and kicked me in the head a couple of times. Israeli born journalist, Daniel Greenfield reported that an anti israel protest had threatened. Billions of us will come and kill you. President Biden and California governor Gavin News took to social media to condemn Sunday’s act hate. Los Angeles mayor Karen base promised that the police would provide additional roles in the Pico Robertson community as well as outside of houses of worship throughout the city.
It’s good they spoke up, but tweeting isn’t enough, Roles nor is standing by and watching. Members of the Los Angeles police department observed the Melee unfold rather than protecting those targeted by the mob. It took volunteers from profit Jewish security organizations, including L Mir public safety and Megan Am to break up the sc. Without them, it would have been a lot worse, mister Sherman said. If not for Megan Am, I don’t know what would have happened.
Said David Kramer, 37. People were running.
Speaker 0: Okay. Let’s get David back onto the show, so… David, why don’t you just pick 1 point? Right? I know we often begin with you talking about the different points that you can make, but let’s let’s change that dynamic.
Let’s just have you make 1 point. You made a bunch of points in the chat. Choose 1 and please please develop it.
Speaker 4: Okay. So randomly last night, of, this Jewish streamer who also debates counter semi on the Alex Jones. So Ellen Adam King,
Speaker 0: Yes. Yes. I know.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Do him personally
Speaker 0: I real? No. Super well. But, yeah. I know I’m in real life.
Speaker 4: Okay. So, , he’s kinda of buddies with Adam Green, and we’ve talked a few times. So he sends me a Dm. Like, he’s doing his face so join. And I hop on…
And III picked… I picked up my parents from the airport in the middle, but the, you, like, and he had some other people. So I I wasn’t, , the main guest at all, but I I interacted a little bit. So I was listening to his you, take take take of that and he claims that he or claims. I mean, it’s not it sounds like it is the case that he’s the head of, a Jewish organization, possibly 1 of 3 different security organizations, and also that he went viral because he was standing behind the mayor at the big event, and there was the speaker’s round table, and he was part of it.
And then all of a sudden, like, he got repo. He’s like me kinda like, small time, you’re, relatively, although, although he is actually on Sensor Tv with Alex Jones. But he got picked up by this, like, liberal antifa Twitter site that called him in Neo Nazi, and it got, like, Res shared thousands of times and got hundreds of thousands of views. So he was doing this, , kinda like renting Twitter space, where he’s, , I can’t believe people are accusing him of being a neo Nazi. But at the same time, he gave his, like, insider a perspective of what happened and what should happen in, like, the mayor.
And, I guess he proposed legislation. He got a law past and he’s saying, like, , the the 1 thing they should do is stop lowering mask the protest. Which, I mean, maybe sounds reasonable. Was already a law. So I’m not sure if that’s interesting or yeah.
Speaker 0: Yeah. It is interesting. What’s his name? Adam King?
Speaker 4: Asking king king as his last name he… I think he says he’s, like, a fifth generation or Los Angeles jew. He had lived in Israel, maybe like, some sort of Alt, and he was actually in, like, the Gus chief settlement in Gaza when it got rated, and abandoned by Israel, and he was, like, protesting till the last moment and the Israeli police had to drag him out of Gaza. But then he became, like a catalyst and like a Red Na type catalyst. And somehow, he got connected with Alex Jones and he has, like, an hour on Sensor Tv, which is Alex Jones News network.
Speaker 0: Oh, yeah. The Adam King show. Yeah. So he he read for congress against Karen Bass a few years ago.
Speaker 4: Okay. And when were you familiar of following it then was he in…
Speaker 0: Well I I went to his opening speech. I remember. So…
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, he… I mean, I don’t say anything negative, but he, like, he’s sound a little bit delusional. And and, like, W from the perspective, Like, you mean, like, at… Like, he’s buddies with Adam Green, and and he was, like I can’t believe they’re calling me and Nazi.
And I was just kinda think, of course. Know it’s, like, group conflict and they’re gonna do anything to , it doesn’t matter whether it makes sense that you’re a nazi or not. That’s just is a strategy that you’re using. And but it was interesting conversation about the dynamics of… Jewish leadership and like, the Ad aisle and the Federation and female rabbi.
And, , because I’m cons minded. So he started mentioning and I immediately jumped on these conspiracy theories, and he, , he’s on Alex Jones, and we were having kind of good conversation till the end I accused them of whining. And then he was like, I will drop you in a second. But
Speaker 0: what do… What does the Jewish Federation and female Rabbi have to do with this story?
Speaker 4: He thinks… I mean, he has some knowledge that there’s a lot of pressure and say, oh, between Jewish organizations. And to some extent, like the Ad in the Federation and the liberal Jewish community is the mainstream voice of La Jews, and they don’t like orthodox Jews, especially him who has his own organization and trying to stand up for Jews themselves. And so it could have been under handed tactics purposely to make the Orthodox Jewish community look bad, and he claimed it was police misha, and , the the police… If they just simply set up a barricade, the protest wouldn’t have been an issue, and it could’ve have been conspiracy where, like, the Ad l or Federation or female rabbi, purposely put a wrench in it in order to make the chaos happen so that they could step in and take control of the, , the Liaison community relationships, of the orthodox community, look…
Make them look and confident so that, , the mayor or various community leaders within the police and various things, will be, like, we can’t work with those orthodox leaders You have to work with the Ad or federation or female rabbi.
Speaker 0: Now you said something that, I’m gonna remark on… You mentioned I love conspiracy theories. Talk to me more about that way. You love conspiracy theories. I also…
At at Times love conspiracy theories, but I I’d like to know more about it from your experience. What is it that that you love about conspiracy theories?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, just a, a neutral view the conspiracy just meaning, people working behind the scenes to control power. Because I’m libertarian and dis trust power in all cases. So any case where you power exert, I assume that there’s factions behind the scene they’re acting in their own interest to fight other factions for power. So in that sense that, like, I mean, that guy’s actually on the, Adam King’s actually on at else Jones. But, yeah I just mean, like, of course, the Ad is cons to push Thor orthodox jews away from power.
And then to immediately come up with a scenario for how that might have played out.
Speaker 0: Okay. So here, I’m gonna be brutally honest about why I have so often being attracted to conspiracy theories because it enabled me to feel special. It enabled me to feel like I knew what was really going on that I could see through the the b. And, yeah, my life was losing in most conventional ways and all the people around me were vastly excel me but at least I could see through the Bs. I was…
I had the bravery and the insight to recognize how the world really worked. So for me, throughout my life at various times, leaving conspiracy theories has been a way to try to prop up my self esteem. And try to give myself some solace that, yeah, even though I was losing in reality at least in this realm of conspiracy theories I was smarter than everyone else. So that was the emotional payoff for me. That was the key source of attraction.
Of, conspiracy theories for me. It was a way for me to justify my losing at life it’s because there are conspiracies out there that hold down good people like me. And, yeah, even though I’m losing at least I see through the the Bs, and therefore, I am more merit victorious and smarter than all the people are conventionally more successful than me. Do you relate to any of that or what I said just a complete foreign language to you?
Speaker 4: I mean, it’s possible and I could I could, , say that in the black black box of my mind or or even, either the humbling reality of who I am that’s possible, but I don’t think that’s of the reason for myself. Say, I was a junior chest champion and grew up in the , the shadows of Bobby Fischer, who was the most famous chess player, and there’s a certain type thinking of chess where you have multiple possibilities. Like, it’s that just the 1 move you could have made. There’s this whole host of other possibilities. And so I’d just say naturally my mind works in the way where, and thinking like, well, yeah, There’s a whole bunch of different possibilities that aren’t being analyzed, let’s analyzed those past abilities.
And maybe also because, , not just me trying to think I was smart, often, I was recognized as intelligent. I was recognized as a cal prodigy it went to a special school for people of high Iq, even in the orthodox community or various workstations or till today, , people, you, we’ll will ask me to analyze these situations, , due to maybe my special ability, not necessarily unique ability, but to just pump out instantaneously possibilities and analyze them, whether it makes me feel special or powerful because I’m not sure, because, like, I’m not sure I have any power from doing it, and it’s just, like, I have dis trust the power. I generally think whatever I’m being told as the mainstream narrative is usually… False and I’m being told it for a nefarious reason and usually cover up for the people in power, and I’m not sure that…
Speaker 0: Have you ever experienced? Have you ever experienced the thrill of believing that you’re special and that you’re suffering, is explained by some nefarious conspiracy. Have you ever even just felt that that emotional rush
Speaker 4: no. Because I think… I mean, maybe, but, I mean, in high school, I read the Ellis Miller the drum of the gifted child
Speaker 0: Yes.
Speaker 4: I’m not sure… I feel like
Speaker 0: I have. I’ve read it. Yes.
Speaker 4: When did you read it?
Speaker 0: I read it around 19 98. Yes My therapist recommended it.
Speaker 4: Okay. But I read that book when I was, like, 14. And so I think is it possible if you had read that book when you were 14 that you… It would have made a, change your outlook where where you say, like, you’re, like, okay I’m smarter than people, but it causes me certain your, problems or disadvantages, and you, these may be narcissist just delusions that you had had you read Alice Miller drama of gifted child would or earlier in your life might have changed that?
Speaker 0: It it might have been another thing that strengthened my analysis ism. So if people haven’t read the book or even heard of it, it’s a central thesis is the that we’re special. It’s like, you’re you’re a gifted wizard, like the the Harry Potter books. And so That’s why life is so painful for for you because you’re so special and and our cruel society and un feeling. People above you and social status and power have inflicted all sorts of wounds on you due to how special and gifted you are.
Speaker 4: Well, Mean, I might put it more in the in the terms like, children who have higher intellectual abilities, perceive things that other people can’t, including, , possibly motivations and feelings of other people and that could lead to severe depression and Man, kinda like the, , the Bobby Fischer syndrome, but but saying that… Okay. Because I have a higher Iq or maybe you a hierarchy Iq, you could see beneath the surface of what other people it doesn’t mean you necessarily could figure things out, but that leads to psychological difficulties. So And so I’m sure. I mean, I Miller is kinda like a mainstream theory, just like psychology, like saying, like, being gifted, isn’t all roses, and benefits.
There’s a downside to it too, namely leading to, , things like depression Na, man, or or various things and that it could be directly linked to the higher intelligence that causes these things.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I mean, there there was a time in a place where her book was very der girl. It was everyone was was reading it. I I don’t think it it has sustained people’s respect, but it certainly had significant appeal. What do what do you think about
Speaker 4: the conspiracy theory? Just say, like, you’re putting it like, a emotional need as opposed to an intelligence thing. So we say, Is it just a product of the more intelligent mind to produce conspiracy theories that’s not necessarily connected to emotional need, but just because the mind processes things, , quicker, speed or, deeper, that, a smarter person just naturally produces conspiracy theories whether they like it or not.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I I don’t think that was really came up in the book. She talked about the pain that the smarter gifted kids have.
Speaker 4: But Yeah. She doesn’t mention that I’m saying that, Like… Because you were connecting the they’re there to, like, emotional need. But, like, I mean, say, okay. Like, dumb people could believe in conspiracy theories or maybe come up with fun.
Here’s but, like, I could generate instantaneously multiple conspiracy theories.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Because I my people
Speaker 4: would stop my mind from doing it whether I want to or not. I can’t even stop my mind from doing it.
Speaker 0: Yeah. But I think what’s underneath that is that we all spontaneously generate theories about why we’re so awesome. And and so it may take many different forms, but what’s really going on is we’re always trying to look for a frame through through which we’re… We’re awesome. So the a gifted child…
Let me finish my point. A gifted child is definitely going to have pain. The less gifted child or not have, but on the other hand, a gifted child will also have adaptive mechanisms that the less gifted won’t have back to you, David it. Will
Speaker 4: Yeah. I just don’t see how generating conspiracy theories makes me feel awesome. You could say, like, sometimes it’s, like, hi. Like Smart I figure things out other, but like, sometimes it’s, like, like, shut this dumb voice in my eye. I can’t shut it off.
, so I don’t necessarily know, like, why why you think it’s, like, eco thing to come up with conspiracy things. It’s just the desire to understand the world and you use your abilities to try to understand the world statistic and if you have more abilities to, , like, Isaac newton the definition of intelligence does the hold multiple conflicting ideas in your head at the same time which is extremely difficult people, like, , multiple truth hypothesis. So the average person just understand the mainstream narrative is difficult, let alone, to be able to spontaneously generate, unique possibilities opposed to the main narrative to explain the circ*mstance.
Speaker 0: Okay. Because you’re using conspiracy theory in his dino sense, but that’s not what it means. Effectively, quantitatively. You’re saying conspiracy theory just means when more than 1 party, Alright. When 2 or more parties get together and plan something.
That’s not what is meant by conspiracy theory what’s meant by conspiracy theory is that, more than 2 parties have gone together and planned something, and all the conventional sources of knowledge deny that it’s true. So that’s the that’s the quantitative meaning of conspiracy theories. So when you’re coming up with conspiracy theories, you’re coming up with theories that all normal and elite sources of knowledge, say, are nonsense. That’s what is meant by a conspiracy theory. It’s not the literal meaning.
The den meaning of just 09:11. Right? It was carried out by A qaeda, Right? It was a conspiracy, and there’s a… They they did this thing that killed thousands of Americans.
Right? It was a… It’s not a conspiracy theory. In in the way the phrase is used to say that you you believe that A qaeda carry out in 09:11. That’s just accepted knowledge.
Now, to say that the United States government carried out 09:11 is an inside job. That is how conspiracy theory is used. Right? It’s not used to to literally mean a conspiracy. It’s a conspiracy theory that is denied by all conventional and all elite forms of knowledge to And so understanding multiple perspectives and coming up with multiple theories about how something might happen is not what is meant by conspiracy theory unless those perspectives are ones that have been debunked by both elite and conventional sources of wisdom.
So if you’re coming up with theories that we never landed on the moon, you’re coming up with theories that 09:11 was an inside job, then you’re truly engaged in conspiracy theories. If you’re just coming up with literal den not innovative conspiracy theories that have not been debunked by conventional elite sources of knowledge. You’re not… Engaged in conspiracy, theo as is understood by the term. So there’s all the difference in the world between the literal meaning of 2 words and how the 2 words are used.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I won’t disagree and saying… Like, I’m actually planning to do a deep dive on conspiracy theories. I’ve started to research it. And there’s, like, the history and the neutral cognitive science view on conspiracy fear theories verse, like this dangerous p majority thing, like, you possibly, like, the Cia with John f Kennedy, of, making the term in that way is where I use, like, a neutral type thing where, like, Luke, I think you and Holds in frame games.
We’re in on it together the whole time. And, , I have some con cognitive idea like it, like, you didn’t tell me, but really you and holds and frame games were having secret meetings. Plotting against me in a saying, is that a conspiracy theory? Like, if a… The popular deaf like, no.
That’s just like, paranoia. And to say, like, okay. Like, I have a paranoia personality. So my mind can’t help, but to produce thoughts like that. Like, maybe Luke and H are cons firing against me, and, like, or, , type things, which , okay, that’s just paranoia, that’s not conspiracy theory.
But we we could put a bookmark in this and and it’d be interesting to talk about in the future especially because I’m reading multiple of books on it. But You get.
Speaker 0: You just… Yeah. I got I got the point, and I I had a a quick thought on it. What you’re engaged in is what many guru do. So You’re gonna be a live streamer.
Right? If you’re gonna be any kind of online personality, you have to come up with content that people won’t get from other sources. And so 1 of the most… Predictable pause that Guru like Jordan Peterson or Brett Weinstein take is to take a phrase, which conventionally has 1 meaning and then instead understand the phrase differently and say, oh, this thing that everyone thinks is bad, conspiracy theories is actually good. Right?
So then you’re you’re going against the grain, you’re attracting attention for saying something this contra, you’re not gonna find many people arguing for, a balanced approach the conspiracy theories in the mainstream media because the way the phrases used is that this is, , a stupid thing that sick people need to shore up this self esteem. So this is this is a very common trick among people trying to develop an online personality is to take a phrase or a topic that is conventionally understood 1 way, and instead, talk about it in a way that’s different from the conventional way, and that way you will sound so you’re giving something special to your audience. You’re saying, hey, this thing that everyone thinks is bad, it may not actually be bad. And so that’s a very common path for people developing an online presence.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, just the final thing to say that because it’s also the pure use of the word in saying, okay. I suffer some paranoia, and I was a drug addict for peer your periods of my life. Maybe you don’t suffer paranoia, but saying Paranoia And I’m implying, I constantly think people are cons. Against me.
But you wouldn’t necessarily call that a conspiracy theory that I have Paranoia, and I’m constantly thinking about how maybe people are cons firing against me that I might call those conspiracy theories.
Speaker 0: Maybe I need to think more deeply about that, But I I have suffered from Paranoia because… Whenever you’re isolated and lonely, all these things come up. So I I didn’t know. Did you hear Elliot B story last night.
Speaker 4: No. III was picking my parents up from there before. So left right after right after I left, I tuned out.
Speaker 0: Okay. So Elliot Vlad gave a story. Where a very dodgy character who would normally be associating with drug addicts. Suddenly, brings over to Elliot place, it a woman who’s gorgeous and speaks multiple languages. And and I…
And suddenly, like Elliott can’t help. But, , fall for this woman, Even though he understands that he matter through the presence of a very dodgy character, and this woman probably trying to develop and and run a scam on him, But she’s so beautiful that he he can’t help, but kind of start falling for her whenever he’s in her presence. She’s absolutely intoxicated. And so… My point to him was that your into in vulnerability is something that you actually carry around all the time.
Because at at core, you have a deep loneliness. And so when a beautiful woman or something comes along that offers you a sense of feeling connected to life, like a normal person. It’s gonna become absolutely into because you’re so hungry. You’re you’re so thirsty for for connection. And this thirst and this vulnerability is actually with you all the time.
It’s only become blinding clear with regard to this con that’s that’s being run on you right now. So if… If you’re lonely, you’re going to have to adapt to that that that very desperate state because loneliness, is a warning sign that that nature is giving us. It’s something seriously seriously wrong with your life, and it’s it’s impossible to just live with loneliness day in and day out, not do anything about it. So 1 way you can you can do something about it is to start over crediting other people.
So a woman who smiles at you at the checkout line, the the cashier. Right? You start developing fantasies that she’s really interested in you. A or you start developing conspiracy theories about how what everyone’s telling you about XYZ. It’s not true, or you start getting paranoid, thinking that, everyone who looks at you certain way or speaks to you a certain way that they are engaged in There’s some nefarious plot to strangle you or you’re gonna check out through using marijuana or through using p*rnography or through drinking or video games, but the state of being lonely is absolutely unbearable.
And so we will try to stamp down inside of us, by getting paranoid by getting depressed by getting angry by conspiracy theo by ob assessing over women who are not available to us, so loneliness makes us very vulnerable to everything that we’ve just discussed. Any thoughts?
Speaker 4: Yeah. And just hearing you say that, like, yes, you’re probably right that, I am lonely, and I do wanna feel special. And I do purposely, like Jordan Peterson use words in my own unique way that goes against the common thread, and in my own, thinking, like, I’m right everybody else is wrong. And, , so I’d say, like, well, what Elliott thinking, like, , like, Like, I would say, well, that’s a conspiracy theory. You, like no.
Not That’s not what a conspiracy. Yeah, That’s… It’s just everyone else is wrong and for some of the nefarious reason. , uses conspiracy theory inaccurate accurately, But Elliot, you’re actually right to think of a conspiracy theory between this woman, cons inspiring with another person to take advantage of you, and, my self esteem is built upon a handful of people, you like church of entropy, a few streamers that agree with me and we’ll use a common account, and , even in all of my, you, kinda like, entourage or little groups or people I work with, we always had a common lexicon kind of code words. That, , basically nobody else used and it showed, membership in our little click.
And I mean, think we’ve talked about these things in the past. So so I would accept your psycho analysis as as true to some extent, but I still think I still think I’m right and everyone else is wrong and that, , conspiracy theory of means what I think it does. And, , and it’s a conspiracy theory that… , someone and on that that the mainstream has given in the nefarious attachment to the to it?
Speaker 0: Right. What do you think about the idea if you fire up a live stream and you simply say what is the standard conventional knowledge on a topic that there’s really no point for doing a live stream.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean… Because… Okay. I’m following big the samantha case, and I’m a conspiracy theorist.
I think… The guy on trial did it.
Speaker 0: Yeah. And Because there’s no purpose in doing a live stream if you’re just gonna repeat the conventional wisdom. Right? You has to… You’re almost driven to conspiracy theories if you live stream because there’s no point in my doing…
Live stream, if I only report what the Detroit News says about the samantha wall trial, then there’s absolutely no point for that live stream.
Speaker 4: A , though this might be a case where the conspiracy gonna be proven correct, but anything saying. So I was saying that almost everybody that’s doing independent journalism on this Samantha world case, thinks that the the the defendant is not guilty. You, but, , , like you’re saying, but we’ll, humans because they’re independent journalist and there wouldn’t be any as of the reporting, if they were just saying the mainstream narrative, although, , like, a lot of people say, well, sometimes conspiracy theories turn out to be correct. And even mainstream news sources now are saying that the case is bizarre, and they wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a hung jury. Turn
Speaker 0: Right. But do you see the serious dangers in what we’re doing? I mean, we’ve we’ve talked to a great deal about the peril of the e personality? But here’s an an additional parallel. Right?
There’s no point it my doing a low trip. If all I’m gonna do is repeat the conventional… Sources of knowledge. I have to believe that I have something special to impart, and so contra perspectives. Right?
Highly appealing for people doing what we’re doing. Right? All the incentives, that that we face go in a contra direction because if we are the opposite of Contra, there would be no point to doing a live stream.
Speaker 4: I’m not sure about that them because we’re alternative dis and I think that there are a lot of mainstream people that do just repeat mainstream talk points, and they figure, like, okay. Like, Kevin Michael Grace said. Like, people want interactive news. They want some of that they can interact with So even if you’re saying the exact same thing that everyone else is saying that you provide a platform where the the people listening could actually interact with you in. I would have to see numbers and statistics because I would guess that, maybe even the majority of, people streaming do in fact just say the mainstream talking points.
Speaker 0: Yeah. But the successful ones don’t. Right? The the successful… Like, for destiny, for example, 1 thing that makes him successful is that he says, , very naughty words.
That people in regular news or or talk radio can’t use. So he’ll say things very graphic. You will sleep with people who watch your show and then talk about these very intimate details. So everyone has to have some sort of hawk, the successful ones. All the successful ones have some sort of hawk so that people go to them rather than the professional broadcasters on Tv or on radio.
And so what a extent, we we build an audience it’s because we’ve got a hawk. So for example, you and I, we’re we’re dis thinkers who are are interested in , some some naughty dis perspectives, and that makes us different from the conventional Tv broadcasters.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Although though… I mean, I think Destiny… I mean, to your point that you just made is true, but, like, to the conspiracy, well he’s… Says mainstream idea supports Biden supports almost all the mainstream narratives with minor exceptions, like, , he supported Cal House or oh, second amendment.
But generally, he’s, your, mainstream narrative, but he has a hook. He as well,
Speaker 0: he’s got a hook. Right.
Speaker 4: Says things in after to face anything. Different than the mainstream be narrative. You’re just saying the mainstream narrative with a hook.
Speaker 0: So to the extent that it… It’s true, You’ve gotta have a hook? You gotta have something special. And the the dangers are that the incentives run so strongly in the… Right in the direction of being a contra.
How how does 1 how does 1 deal that deal with that?
Speaker 4: Well, I think, also, you could just have a niche audience with your areas of… Have expertise. Here’s the, like, look forward, , seventh to day Venice, , orthodox judaism, , little knowledge of economics, specialty and p*rnography business, examined white Nationalist, know, various things that you have a unique perspective of expertise that cipher information in a certain way that you could build up a little audience that likes hearing the commentary from you, and it’s not necessarily based on something pe, like, conspiracy or a hook, but just you’re… Unique, your personality and experiences and expertise that cipher information in a certain way that you build up an audience that you can interact with, that like that. And, , maybe I could argue I have the same thing.
Like, , unique things about me that doesn’t nec anything majority of just people like getting their information me because of my unique, your flavor of, , different experiences and expertise.
Speaker 0: Yeah. We we both do what what the what 1 genre would describe a celebrity shows. Right? So the normal path to success in podcasting is to narrow cast. Right?
Develop a unique topic and approach and just stick to it a day in a day out, so that people know what they’re gonna get when they come to your show. Right? That’s the normal conventional path to success. Both of us are too ec. Think thinker is to be after be happy with that conventional path to podcasting success.
So instead, we have to really use what what’s known as the celebrity approach, and that is whatever the person is talking about is going to have some appeal because there’s just a sense of, charisma, about the individuals. So whether I’m talking about the Dallas Cowboys or national politics or psychology or orthodox judaism my hawk is my personality and and my life experience. Essentially, I end you we’re both we’re both podcasting with both live streaming as micro celebrities. As opposed to the conventional path, the success which would be to choose, , 1 very very narrow niche and dig dig dig into it on a regular basis. Any thoughts,
Speaker 4: Yeah. In celebrity, wax and wan, and you could fall in and out of favor, and you could , in good times, you could just be yourself and things worked out and in bad times. You’re saying you have to reinvent yourself or maybe you have to do hooks. Or nefarious things to get yourself back. And , divine providence, random things out of our control to what are the current events that people care about.
And if current events that people care about favor our personalities, we will wax and Wan , with the popularity. So if something comes up, , like, , the Hans name and cheating scandal, and then it’s, like, okay. Like, like, , like, a definitely 1 here what David’s talk saying on this or something that maybe, , turns up with , the business or something Someone’s like, I haven’t turned it to Look forward for a few years, But, like, I wonder if he’s talking about this. And, like, largely, that’s out of our control for in in in that, , what will cause us to be more appealing to a larger audience or or less appealing.
Speaker 0: So let me see if I can get your specific direct reaction to something that I I failed to get a direct reaction on yesterday. When I see someone went senseless brawl. Right? With without purpose. Alright?
Senseless brawl, I think someone who’s an adult. Right? So not just someone in in the grip of their their teenage hormones, but, a, a 25 year old man senseless brawl I think that person must have a pretty sad life and don’t have much of a sense of risking anything that if they… If they had anything going for them, they wouldn’t be needlessly placing themselves at risk. Any thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, generally, like, I a hundred percent agree, and it was only, like, , the definition reg because I didn’t think that… I mean, it could be interpreted that what happened at the La Synagogue protest that was senseless. But, like, as a rule, I’ve said my whole life, like, , , avoid people who do stupid things for no reason, and I did party promotion, and event promotion and, like, , people who get in fights, like, physically fights for no reason, , versus, like, okay. Like, , so we’re just playing around with what sense this means.
But I’m, saying, if you’re if your friends are going to a party, and I’m not actually sure. I think it’s a personality trait. That, , some people are very conflict prone and are constantly getting fights and like, if you go out with them to a buyer or party or or even to a Synagogue event, they’re extremely more likely to get into confrontations and even violence and they might… It might affect their life, although some people are, bullies and do that their whole life and relatively have successful lives. So I’m not sure if you agree of that context.
Speaker 0: Sure. I’m I’m fine with that, but let me further develop upon this. I’ve absolutely enjoyed a 7 part Netflix documentary series, on the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader leaders. And here’s what struck me and it’s got a a great deal in common with the Senseless brawl is that many of the girls struck me as not growing out feeling pretty and so by becoming a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader or for other girls becoming a p*rn star enabled them to feel special, enabled them to feel pretty, and it seems with with many of them both in the p*rn industry and as Chili is that they’re desperately trying to fill a hole in their soul. So I’m thinking about 1 professional Nfl cheerleader leader who converted to Orthodox Judaism, but both the conversion Orthodox.
Judaism and the professional cheer came from the same place. There were just different expressions of this need to feel whole. And so as as professional Dallas where Chile leaders is, I mean, they were putting their bodies through great stress. I mean, they needed… Pip surgeries and all sorts of surgeries that were getting paid almost nothing.
The job commanded enormous amount of their time. It required enormous amount of discipline. It fore closed all sorts of other options for their lives, and I would I would have to think if if what I’ve just set up you is accurate David, that that’s simply coming from a place like the brawl, people with not a lot to lose that they would go to such desperate desperate attempts to feel whole. Any thoughts?
Speaker 4: Yeah. My, I I like to talk to analyze violence and I think people under rate what a good strategy violence is. And, like, where’s cerebral, people in favor long term planning or the consequences of your action. But like, in short term strategy, violence is often the best strategy. And certainly, like, various things.
Like, a lot of times the, , people, like, the Red redfield now is you’ve basically been exclusively used for dating relations. That I think the strongest relation between Prom permissible sexual activity, is actually with violence, and , god forbid that violent men tend to possibly get the most sexual relations, especially with Prom women, and a lot of times, prom as women, even just the animal animal way. What what Prom women do when they have sexual relations with people is they want… The man that they’re going to have sexual relations with to beat up their former boyfriend. And so, , just like, in that term, like, violence is important, and that’s why people risk it for strategy even looking like the protesters on the Jewish side or the Palestinian side, you could…
Like, they’re both basically just trying to impress women.
Speaker 0: Yeah. So what do you think of the motivations for a woman becoming a p*rn star or a cheerleader leader?
Speaker 4: I don’t have expertise in that, but may I think…
Speaker 0: I know. But when you guess, it like, often there’s a great wisdom from people who know nothing about a topic. What you guess is driving someone to do that.
Speaker 4: What we discussed it once with the the tal where where it it’s actually smarter women, women that are smarter than their peers, especially their male peers. That end up prom. And and so it’s a attitude or of , it’s kinda like the divine payback of trying to take advantage of people So and and I think I’ve seen studies on it besides the statement of the Tal that, like, girls who are too smart end up end up prostitutes.
Speaker 0: Okay. David, I’m gonna wrap up this segment any final words?
Speaker 4: What did did you even wanna talk, like Adam King in the the a possibility of a, the Federation or secular people cons firing against the Orthodox compute… Community to Us leadership by purposely making them look bad.
Speaker 0: The Yeah. I think that’s absolutely Ludicrous there’s absolutely, , evidence for it. I think it’s complete nonsense. But if you wanna develop that case. I mean, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well, because I I didn’t know too much about it Just talking with Adam King and like, as I mentioned, that’s how we got into the rabbit hole conspiracy theory because, you, he’s he’s on Alex Jones. But I was saying that there’s a fight in city hall and with the communities of powers of who represents the Jews. And I assume in La, , I was learning most of this from Adam King because I wasn’t not familiar with, like, , City council they’re the power players that there’s probably a struggle between the Ortho orthodox, , community leaders in the Federation and the Ad. And certainly, what happened the other day, is an opportunity for critics of the orthodox community, specifically in the liberal Jewish community, , not mentioning, you’re not even to mention, like, , anti semitism or critics of the Jewish community in general, but specifically from the liberal Jewish community to try to say, communities incompetent. And therefore, you, , they shouldn’t, , , you shouldn’t take their community leader seriously, and you should bet too the Ad l or Federation speak for them.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I don’t think there’s there’s much evidence of a conspiracy here, I, I mean, everyone’s scrambling for power. And I’ll say they’re socially of all the groups I’ve known.
Speaker 4: But for forget the trigger, I use the word conspiracy.
Speaker 0: Right. Yeah. I think everyone’s always struggling for power in Jewish life and in non Jewish life. But out of all the groups I’ve known, Jews are the least likely to follow. Right?
Jews are the toughest crowd if you’re a public speaker, A lot of Jews wanna be leaders, not many Jews wanna be followers us.
Speaker 4: What have you ever been because, like, okay, Adam King, happened to be at, like, the, , the council of community leaders that , was with that mayor or ba called after this event that included the Simon Wei salt center that, I guess, there was even to mention that, like, , only Rabbi Cooper came that are read by hire and Adam King had his organization, and, , there was also your your your mole, Some like, if it’s a Jewish city council. Y that that the your… She he was the 1 she king… She was the 1 King was mentioning golf and that that after the event, where he came as a community leader that the mayor and , this moment we’re distancing himself because people were claiming that he’s a Neo nazi. Like, , he’s coming as a legitimate representative of an orthodox Jewish, But once his picture was plastered all over the paper standing behind the mayor that people, like…
That Tuesday in Neo Nazi, that dude talked with Elk Jones Nicholas Fu and all these people, and now, , the mayor or or this woman and other forces are are. Sing themselves from him.
Speaker 0: Yeah. Well, a normal person would wanna a distance themselves from anyone associated with Alex Jones. So it makes sense that the mayor would wanna a distance itself from from king. It’s nothing I see is nefarious. Just common sense.
Speaker 4: Well, and that’s why I told him at the end of that kinda… Because he, like, went on, like, a rant for, like, 20 minutes. I, like, dude you’re just whining? And then, like, he said that he was like, I will drop you in a second. And I was like, I do what you gotta do, but then he let me finish make my point where I kinda neutral about group conflict and, like, I was kinda, like, , why you surprised, of course, they’re gonna do that, but, , he didn’t feel that way that that, , he was deeply hurt and he’s like, how can you passively think I, neon nazi.
I’m the super jew with all jews.
Speaker 0: Right. I mean, who who has the time to do all the livestream streaming that mister King, , myself and you do. Alright, people who aren’t married with kids. What kind of people aren’t married with kids, people who are generally on the margins. And so people who are on the margins tend to hang out.
With other people on the margins, and people who are not on the margins generally don’t wanna be associated with people on the margins. With
Speaker 4: I I think he is actually married. I’m not sure if he has kids. But but me, even that case, like, is saying, like, well, Yeah. That’s a deep hit to the egos because, like, okay. Like, I’ve been a distance so, , even as a kid.
Like, I kinda… Put myself even as a teenager that I was gonna be a person on the margins and never really had hopes of being mainstream and designed my personality, and positive feedback mechanisms as being someone on the margin end. And maybe you also did that, although it didn’t appear that King had that, like, he thought he was mainstream even though, , the evidence might be against that, And I’m not sure , the alt right or the people you file are even p*rnography or various things like what people at a young age, , determined that they’re gonna be an outsider or or what people kind of take delusions despite everything that they’re doing to think that they’re basically normal.
Speaker 0: Well, people who are in in the center of life who are popular and effective and loved and have, , popular successful friends, that they… Such people never choose to marginal themselves. But if you’re already on the margins, then you’ll be incentivized to make the best of it. So what we’ve all done here is we’ve made the best of how marginalized status.
Speaker 4: And and just… You could close the chapter on this just because I Reminded myself write off hand, why intelligent women become prom or maybe, you, going into p*rn, and it probably starts with being smart enough to trick other people. So if you’re a normal pretty girl in high school that’s, , above average, attractiveness and intelligence. And you think, like, I could shoot on my boyfriend and get away with it, because, , you you real… They realize that they’re a little bit smarter than people.
And and, eventually, that comes back to bite them and everybody figures it out, and then they get labeled as a slot, and either, they, , have to repent or they embrace it, But it’s that element of high intelligence that causes, and not necessarily, like, , like, the all p*rn people are geniuses, they eat even, like, , people in low intelligence areas, but they’re smarter than their peers. So even if you’re African American woman, growing up in the hood that the average slot is actually smarter than your peers, and that’s what causes the descent into , prostitution or for for many times.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I think the opposite is sure. I think the prom woman is generally less intelligent than it peers. But anyway, Do, I’m gonna move on. So thanks for coming back.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Great.
Speaker 0: Okay. Take care. So I You remember Covid vaccine mandates. I didn’t like that that topic, back in the day. So I had 1 or 2 inclination thinking, oh, government directed vaccine, mandates.
I can kinda see the point for them, but I I pretty quickly took the positions that that I don’t favor government directed Covid vaccine mandates that I wanted people to have the freedom to choose And then I read an essay in the New York review of books by Linda Greenhouse. So just fired up my New York review of books subscription a few weeks ago, and in the 12/21/2023 issue, an unhealthy definition of rights, The new majority on the Supreme Court religious liberty takes precedence over the government’s power to protect public health. And so I started thinking more deeply about the topic and now, I love the topic because how much freedom would I be willing to give up? Alright, to create a safer public space. Alright?
If more people have vaccinated, fewer people will get severely sick or die from Covid. We will have a safer healthier society with reduced health expenses, and less needless loss of life. So there is some degree of human freedom that I would give up for those benefits. So Generally speaking in the competition between individual freedom and the public good. Right?
I I’m fairly centrist, But when I was younger, I definitely have much stronger libertarian inclination, and then reporting on the point industry made me think, we need more… Regulations for the public good. That the libertarian approach is not a good approach for society in many things. Right? Some libertarian in in society is is good.
So you can make the arguments for this or that, that’s decrease regulation. I’m I’m quite open to it. But As I get older, I am tending more towards the side of the public good. And so If you got a fighting force, alright? Where would what that fighting force to be at peak efficiency and at peak health.
And to do everything you can to reduce the chances of, the fighting force becoming ill, let alone seriously ill. So I can see I can now better understand the case for mandated covid vaccinations. So if vaccinations have been proven safe and effective, I don’t love the idea of government directed vaccinations, but I certainly align with creating incentives for for people to get vaccinated. And 1 of the most powerful incentives is to get people vaccinated just to make it more difficult for them to participate in public life if they’re not, Vaccinated. So I remember when I went to Australia.
First time I went to Synagogue, I didn’t bring proof of vaccination with me, so I did not get into the particular synagogue, So this was still in the height of Covid. This was November of 20 21. I believe the the vaccine had… Recently being released in the United States, but most people weren’t being vaccinated. So I certainly believe in a public pass policy that strongly incentivize getting vaccines that have been proven safe and effective, and I am open to government mandated vaccination in some areas such as the military.
I’m more open to it now than I was yesterday prior to reading this article. Okay. So see Sailor is on Or Mac. I’m not a fan of Or Mac. He’s tracks me as a hypo attention seeker.
So, I I generally agree with him. Like, I generally agree with Tucker Carlson. I generally agree with Douglas Murray. But something with with… Yeah.
With with all of them, there’s a lot of attention seeking, telling people what they wanna hear. And so I I get the sense with Or Mcintyre, the the little I paid attention to him that he’s he’s very much producing a performative online output to to meet the desires of a particular audience. So he’s not someone I respect, but I I recognize he’s very smart And I’m something if fantasy with social media companies to censor, people like myself and others who speak on political topics. So if you wanna go ahead and support me and on everybody else who
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Speaker 6: Reasonable guy, who knows a lot of basic facts about this America, this what the social science says who observe a lot about daily life from a pretty normal point of view. And then I put it together in kind of a big picture that tends to scare people, I guess. The it’s like, well, what if Sailors is right. Then that would be horrible, especially, that would mean, , I’ve been wrong. And therefore, maybe he should have my job.
No. That’s the possible. Conclusion they can come to. I don’t know. So it’s been going on forever, and I just keep doing what I do.
And at the moment, I’m I’m sort of… More popular than ever, but I’ve been doing this a long time.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I’m not a big fan of the hug box where you talk to people that you just agree with and you tell a particular audience what it wants to hear. Now a big s sale fan, not an or in mac.
Speaker 6: I’m gonna have a lot of ups and downs over the decades.
Speaker 0: Yeah. That that kinda multi decade overnight success there for y’all all of a sudden, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I started writing for national review in 19 94. Been a full time opinion journalists. Since 2000 so.
Speaker 0: Okay. Gl Med lee says something provocative here in the chat. 40 now order perhaps weaker so the younger and the healthier is okay. Well, if you wanna live in a society, you’re down with coercion. For Right?
The society gets anything done through coercion collusion, you put people away if they’re committing crimes, you make it difficult for them to avoid paying taxes. You require them to fulfill certain requirements if they wanna own a gun or if they get a driver’s license. So all societies or communities, rely on coercion. So it’s not like, oh, this is something brand new and unique that, 40 is advocating something that is unheard of in human history? It must have something to do with forties own physical health weakness.
Look, how many lives are you willing to sacrifice to be against government directed vaccine mandates in all cases. Right? How how many years of life are you willing to sacrifice? So are you willing to have 5000 extra American deaths each year at an average loss of life of 10 years. Right?
So that’s your side. Right? You’re willing to put up with thousands of additional unnecessary deaths costing una average 10 years. And I am open the idea of a little more government in the in the area of public health. In particular with regard to vaccines because for me, I see the argument that, preservation of life of my fellow citizens, reducing sickness in the public square, creating a safer and healthier and stronger society, is more important than allowing people the freedom to choose badly.
For example, we mandate the use of seat belts. In some circ*mstance, wearing a seat belt will cost you your life as opposed to not wearing a seat belt. But overwhelmingly seat belts, save lives. Overwhelmingly vaccines save lives. So you…
Yeah. I I assume gl, that, you’re you’re not a fan of vaccine mandates, so you’re willing to sacrifice thousands of lives to preserve the freedom to choose badly, and I am less inclined in that direction than I was yesterday. Jar draws. Well, gl, Med, 2000 people under 18 lost their life during Covid. Is that…
Oh, so we have various government economic surveys that show the average lives lost per perk Covid death was place around 15 years. So at at what point do people lose any value. So you have contempt for the old people. Right? Ge tucker drills.
I get it, you load old people. You don’t think they have any value. You can give a f. If hundreds of thousands of them die unnecessarily, I get it. Right?
You don’t care. At what age do people cease to have value to you? Right? For me, 80 year olds still have value. 75 year olds still have value, you have contempt for the old at what age is that?
That contempt kick in. Is it, say, 5 years above whatever age you are? And will you be down when you’re 70 with other people having that same contempt for you that you have for 70 year olds right now. Right? So just don’t have to a lot of reading between the lines, you have contempt for all people.
You don’t think they have any value. So when you get older, you’re gonna be cool with that, other people recognizing you as having No value. What standard does a vaccine need to meet before it’s eligible to be mandated? Does this C Covid vaccine meet that standard. So I I don’t know enough on that topic.
I recognize that the consensus of the experts was that vaccines available. In the United States of America were both safe and effective, not effective as in perfectly effective, but they reduced your chances of dying and they reduce your chances of getting seriously ill, and the advantages of taking the Covid vaccine, as I understand it from the experts vastly outweigh. The disadvantages just as the advantages wearing a seat belt, vastly outweigh. The disadvantages, Oh, whoa. Cliff Badly.
My god. Cliff says you win bro logic and reason really coming through. I’m… I’m embarrassed. I mean, if if I can if I can win with Gl Med, then I can win with America because Gl Med, Is the champion of the chat.
I mean, Elliot B. I love you. You’re a wonderful gift, guest, but different people have different gifts. And gl med has a particular gift for the Africa occurred. No.
I haven’t been boosted in almost I haven’t been boosted haven’t had a Covid vaccine. So it’s now June so 9 months. Ap. I I’m not even sure how to pronounce this, but this is Gl Med particular gift. He may have many other gifts you may be a sensitive and generous lover for all I know, but at Api is a comment a brief reference that makes an illuminati or entertaining point.
Gl med better than 999 people at a 10000. Right? Different people have different gifts. This is Gl gift. Alright?
He’s better than 99 point 999 percent of people and making a brief illuminati or entertaining point. So it… It’s a a great honor live that you come to the show and you you give us these these blinding insights and and often provocation. Because if I’m just standing here, talking to a wall. I I can’t do the show.
I have to be provoked. I have to be stood up. I have to be need. I have to have someone Let me know that I’m mispronouncing something that I’ve gone boring. So how the hell do you spell app…
Do you pronounce App occur? So let’s see if there is a pronunciation here on Youtube, and then I will show you the word. Come on. Bloody Hell. Okay.
I can’t even see… Give me a link. Right? If a link. That shows how how to pronounce it.
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Speaker 2: Me soon.
Speaker 0: App. App sue. Sounds friends.
Speaker 2: App sue.
Speaker 0: Thank you. App sue.
Speaker 2: That’s a French.
Speaker 0: Yeah. I was right. It’s a It’s a French. Oh, man. What’s going on with this?
Speaker 7: Israel releasing this…
Speaker 0: This is the number 1 story that I’ve been following?
Speaker 7: Video right here that it says shows Hamas terrorists. Firing a projectile at a Uni Aid Con. That Con heading to reunite children in Northern Gaza with their families in the south. Now the Israel defense forces is saying it’s more evidence that Hamas is j the safety of gaza civilians. Now over in the north israel Real and Hezbollah In lebanon appear to be on the brink of a possible war, with a attacks by the Terror group only intensify intensifying.
Do wanna talk more about all of the latest developments here, so let’s bring in John’s.
Speaker 0: Okay. Let’s go big brain back to Amanda Alexander, her essay on how the Palestinian successive copied the, the North Vietnam, the Vie Kong narrative and why that proved to be such a winner. So the theory of the People’s war. Remember People’s war is the communist theory of war that anything is kosher to overthrow colonialism or imperial. What is colonialism And imperial, once you remove any kind of moral judgment, you just purely go for description.
So if you just purely keep it descriptive, colonialism and imperial means more effective. Than less effective people. So colonialism and imperial means that if if your group has has been accused of colonialism or imperial, what your group is being accused of is being effective, being more effective than the losers. So colonial and imperialist are winners. Right?
They have 1 out over losers. So 1 definition of imperial is to have influence. So if you are smarter than other people, if you are prettier than other people, if you have any gift that is above average and you deploy that gift. Right? You’re likely to have some influence.
And as such, you are engaged in imperial. And if you go around fe women with your radioactive seed, you are engaged in colonialism. And if you take some care about the women that you fertilize or at you are engaged in Eugenics. Scary scary scary stuff. Right.
So theory of the people’s want means the communist theory, the third world theory, it means the theory of losers. Right? Communist me Marxist lenin Right, This is the the third world theory of losers. And how because they have traditionally lost to those who are more effective the west. They are therefore entitled to break any kind of moral standard.
They no longer have to be constrained by any moral standard, they can kill rape, torture, slaughter civilians because that causes just because they’re losers. Right? This is the ethos of the loser. I’m a loser, my people are consistently lost. That Therefore, I am morally entitled to do anything.
It it’s kinda similar to the Trump, ethos after the 20 20 election where Trump lost the election and then came out with all these bogus conspiracy theories at which bought into them, you were free from any kind of moral constraints, punch you free from any moral constraints, things like January sixth were inevitable. You Right? If if you say that the election system is rigged against your team, then you’re saying that your team is no longer bound to any kind of standard of behavior that you can do anything because the game is rigged against you. And that’s the same ethos of the Comm the third world, right, the the elite theory of the People’s war, the the gorilla war. We’re losers we’ve consistently lost.
Therefore we are free from any kind of moral obligation. Right? And that’s how how people think on the left who support terrorism and Palestinian rights. Right? Throwing in with the Palestinians means you throw in with losers.
Right? Your big supporter of the arabs or of Muslims right? You’re throwing in with those who are consistently losing out to the west, which is consistently more effective. Right. People’s war, and it is a whole new system em morality, whole new approach to war.
Because in the laws of war, you do not gratuitous slaughter and rape civilians. But The lose mentality, the third world mentality, the Palestinian mentality, the Vie Con mentality is we are free from all moral constraints. Right, you have to be afraid of people with this kind of world because that there’s gonna be nothing that holds them back. Right? They would do anything.
Right? The Palestinians would do anything. Now, anybody under sufficient stress will do anything to survive. Right? It just requires more stress for more successful people to s.
To doing anything? Well, people who have no success. Right? What would Palestinians be proud of? Like, what are their huge contributions for your humanity.
They they don’t have a whole heck of a lot to be proud of. Therefore, they take pride in their lose a narrative, and how it frees them from any moral constraints. Right fundamental aspects of the laws of war, the status of national liberation wars right, completely contradict traditional understanding of the laws of war. But these via Kong and Palestinian Narratives developed a subtle shift in the interpretation of the laws of Armed conflict among the winners. Alright?
The west. Right? Those who have embraced the Via Kong and the Palestinian narrative and the anti colonial anti imperialist narrative are embracing the narratives of losers and identifying with losers because losers evo some sort of special the feeling that is so exquisite that it’s not available elsewhere. Right? That’s why identifying with the narrative of the losers is so popular among Western elites because it produces…
It appeals to that nurturing instinct. And if you don’t have children to nurture, or if you’re not particularly interested in nurturing your own children, then the only way you can get those exquisite nurturing feelings taking care of helpless losers. Right? And you’re not willing to do it the traditional way by having kids or by caring about your kids are dev diverting yourself to your kids. You’ve got have some outlet for that desire to nurture the absolutely helpless and hopeless and the losers.
And so for many western elites who highly intelligent, and highly desi of the exquisite be available for caring deeply about the losers. Right? The Palestinian cause is 1 opportunity. And so it doesn’t express itself that bluntly and honestly, hey, I support the Palestinians because I get these exquisite feelings from identifying and supporting losers. But nobody says that.
But what you instead get is, oh, is Israel conducting yourself J against an enemy who has 0 moral constraints. They feel released from moral constraints because they lose us. And anyone who identifies with the anti imperialist anti colonial, communist narrative, right, they feel freed from all moral constraints. And think about how much easier life is if you’ve got nothing to preserve, If you’ve got no accomplishments to protect and you have no moral constraints that you need to live up to. You can see why this would be appealing, particularly to both, lower Iq people and those high Iq people who are desi of a particular emotional sensation, that’s only available by throwing in with the narrative of the losers.
So most talk about the Israeli Palestinian conflict is about Israel’s nation territory and how Israel conducts its counter ins against an enemy who knows no moral constraints. So you have growing dis approval of Israel’s counter ins tactics among Western elites. Right? When Israel’s fights to defend itself, and fights back against terrorists who know no moral constraints. Alright.
You have this widespread worldwide Un majority of nations supporting the gorillas, the communist that loses the terrorists, the Palestinians. And so Western elites such as Western international lawyers and Western countries begin to question the legality of counter tactics. Right? Which are inevitable. If you wanna survive and you’re fighting a terrorist enemy, you have to employ counter ins or you’re not going to survive.
So increasingly among Western elites, they questioned the legality and morality and the legitimacy of Jews wanting to live in the Jewish state. Especially when Jews are killing civilian palestinians in a manner that the elite regards as disproportionate. So there wasn’t really adoption of disproportionate prior to the 19 seventies. Yeah it was there, but it was very minor league. It was at a very minor key.
But after the 19 seventies, particularly since the late 19 nineties, the number 1 international elite concern with regard to law is that you don’t kill civilians. You minimize the killing a civilians and your killing a civilians must not be disproportionate. So you have to restrict your military tactics to that, which does the least damage to civilians, like a completely brand new in the history of humanity approach to international law and what is underneath it is the communist loser narrative that because where losers and we’ve consistently lost out to those who are more effective and have developed a higher, more effective more intelligent form of civilization. We are therefore freed from moral constraints, When you go up against the enemy freed from moral constraints, you have to use effective and often cruel counter ins tactics. So the anti Vietnam war movement, and the pro Palestine movement launched a comprehensive attack on the traditional understanding of the rules of war and traditional understanding of international humanitarian law.
And particular, a comprehensive attack on the way that the United States and Israel fought back against their terrorist g opponents who knew no moral sanction. And so you had this growing elite movement among human rights activists and international humanitarian lawyers whose only outlet for particularly distinctive feelings is to side with the losing narratives decide with the people who know moral constraints and the elite in the fields of international humanitarian law and human rights, go to war against the United States and Israel, So you get the gin up a popular protest, you get news media reports that draw attention to what Israel’s is doing wrong. To what the United States is doing wrong. And how they’re being cruel to the terrorists who know no moral limits. And so you have an increasing focus on The suffering of civilians and children when the United States and Israel engage encounter ins, and you have these leading elite.
Western intellectual and journalists producing inquiries into these acts. They stage trials, judging, Us campaigns and Israel campaigns, and you have a significant change in the legal discourse by the start of the diplomatic conferences of what 19 74 to 19 77.
Speaker 5: Hana R origins of totalitarian. This is basically her idea of. But he’s taken it. You might put it most challenging like this. Rights were once the first prerogative of citizens, but But in our contemporary formed of international, they’re the last chance of humans.
To whom we can’t extend citizenship or who don’t have it on their own. Now, even if you want us claim that this distinction is not as great as I’m presenting. It still seems worth reckoning with. If we think about human rights, we typically think about the suffering of other people. Typically in the third world, which was never the primary location of talk about the rights of man, And even if there’s some continuity, there’s some major disco which has to be reckon with.
So it’s not on my chart that people hadn’t yet discovered our words. They hadn’t really stumbled on our project yet. And that’s what I wanna emphasize. So how did we come to it? Well, Leaving ancient history aside, the first stage clearly has to be the 19 forties.
After all, there is a universal declaration of human rights then. How do we think about the 19 forties? It’s gets the lion’s share of attention? And if you’ll permit my religious, church history analogy to continue. It’s always treated as the moment of ann pronunciation.
And it is the moment when the phrase human rights enters to English language, and it is terrific important. Now let me turn a bit skeptical for a bit. This typical story that set on the idea that the forties are a moment of breakthrough which would begin in already in 19 41 before the Americans enter the war with the Atlantic charter. I don’t know if what that is, But It’s a it’s a document that Fdr and Churchill produce to to say, what is this war about? Even though the Americans, can’t be driven into it until they’re bombed.
And they say it’s about 4 freedoms. The freedoms of speech and religion and the freedom from want and freedom from fear, which people tend to think the last means something like a secure world. In which war doesn’t continuously crop up. That seen is the point of origin, although, at that point, Human rights have not entered high politics. It’s not that phrase, has to wait until 19 42.
Somehow, there’s a line trace from that Atlantic charter through the 19 48 universal declaration. Now, I wanna suggest that we look more closely at the forties. And instead of seeing them just as simple ann pronunciation. Look more carefully at a kind of 2 big stages in the history of the human rights idea. Now what does it really mean in these early forms?
Because as of 42, Fdr does start to talk about it? As part of a list, and it’s true that American international lawyers do start to get excited about it. And they do things like draft potential lists for an international bill of rights in 42 and 3. What do we say about, about those, those human rights? I like the first thing to say,
Speaker 0: So apparently in in Australia day, you need a prescription for nicotine Nicotine products. So Australia is a much less free country than the United States. Australia puts a much higher premium on Fairness, Americans put a much higher premium on freedom. So America developed when when the enlightenment project was just getting started, while Australia never had a revolution, it developed after the enlightenment It was different mindset. So Australia, England, New Zealand countries that emphasize fairness and so they think it’s…
Oh, it’s unfair. To make it easy for people to do something destructive such as to get access to nicotine products. So as an American who’s particularly on the right, Alright. You’re gonna find Australia and and Europe to be, like like, many states compared to… Your American experience.
Speaker 5: As that they mean something different for most people. Most people understand them to signify that the war is about the creation of social democracy. If you ask people, what are we fighting for? It’s against nazi tyranny, though not the holocaust, But it’s a new order vision. It’s what we’re fighting for is something positive and will involve some sort of social democracy.
The Brits say that, even Fdr as famously in 19 44 gives a state of the union address in which he announces a second bill of rights. Which would cover social and economic rights. There’s not much implication actually if you survey uses in the forties, that they have an international bearing, true, they define a kind of outcome for all civilized states. But it’s fairly clear that it’s still going to be the state that’s the forum of right just as before. And actually, Fdr has to be pushed in the direct, of having international organization, what eventually becomes the United Nations.
So it’s not obvious, even though international lawyers are start to get excited briefly about the idea of human rights that it involves a kind of drive towards international law, or international legal protection. Said the dominant meaning in those first couple of years is at home. Now even worse we have to see what the relationship of the Atlantic charter is to the big world. I’ve been talking about an…
Speaker 0: So until the 19 seventies human rights was taken a granted. There was something that a state afforded its citizens. Wasn’t just any individual in the world being born. It and dissolving them…
Speaker 5: Little American idea. But if you look out at the world, the Atlantic charter is actually… Extremely exciting around the world, but it’s not because it promises social democracy. Instead, it promises the self determined determination of people. A collective principle that been introduced back in the day by Lennon and Wilson, and, interestingly, there…
There’s a dispute over what that phrase means at the Landing.
Speaker 0: Right. Lenin meaning Vladimir, Il, Lenin, the Soviet dictator and, president woodrow Wilson of the United States.
Speaker 5: Charter Immediately, there’s vast enthusiasm around.
Speaker 0: So both Lennon and Woodrow Wilson were appalled by colonialism and imperial.
Speaker 5: On the world, and that’s for sure about the Atlantic charter because of this self determination principle. It seems to mean that Empire is out but churchill doesn’t see it that way. The Atlanta charter is about Hitler’s on empire, not his empire. And it’s not about Empire in general. And he actually succeeds in convincing Fdr with this fact by the end of the day, of of Fdr life.
And so in a sense, if we look carefully, we see that self determination and human rights are in a kind of hydraulic relationship. Human rights for most of the world turns out to be a kind of consolation price, what they’re not getting is self determination, and human rights is given instead. In part because the major powers don’t see human rights having any implications for the end of empire. That’s quite important. As late as the universal declaration of human rights self determination is not in the idea of human rights.
And I think when we look and do a differential history, around the world. It shouldn’t be surprising that there’s such enthusiasm about the Atlantic charter and almost none about the universal declaration outside the North Atlantic zone. And I think that should be sobering but, even at home, there’s a story to tell, not about the realization of human rights in the universal declaration. But about their sc. And I don’t wanna get into too much detail given the rapidly advancing time, but the story would go roughly like this.
There’s lots of idealistic talk once Fdr brought around to the idea of international organization about what it what it will involve, maybe it will involve human rights. But as of 19 44 when the first drafts, are announced or leaked actually.
Speaker 0: So elliot platt says you’ll have to take my nicotine from my coat dead nicotine stained hands. I I can’t beat that line. That… That’s the best. This show cannot improve from that insight, God bless Elliot b, God bless you and God bless America.
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